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2 weeks
 By J.M.Reis - Posted on August 25, 2008 - 10:58:39   (#22963)
 Current version when comment was posted: V0.3
I plan to release the new versions in about 2 weeks.
The code of BatteryStatus and BeCC is complete and the testing phase just started. BeCC is completely rewritten from the scratch (finally works with Zeta too!) so I expect to find (and fix) some bugs before the release date.
Jukebox will be ´´just´´ a trouble-build. So nothing completely new. It´s more about bugfixing than implementing new features (still some month away from V0.4).
I also updated the image galleries of this 3 applications.


Thanks
 By salva - Posted on August 23, 2008 - 17:26:23   (#22960)
 Current version when comment was posted: V0.3
Great news! Thanks for your apps :)

working on the next version(s)
 By J.M.Reis - Posted on August 23, 2008 - 10:54:19   (#22959)
 Current version when comment was posted: V0.3
Hi everyone,
some month passed by since my last activities in the BeOS scene. But I found some time to work on my projects again and you can expect new versions of BatteryStatus, BeCC and Jukebox of course quite soon.
BeCC, which is an application to power external Crystalfontz displays, will then be able to show information of Jukebox (title, duration, time, volume, etc...) and a VU-meter.
The next trouble-build of Jukebox will contain many bugfixes (sometimes I really wonder why it ran that good with all that bad code) and is about 80-90% of what will be in V0.4.

trouble build 20080504
 By J.M.Reis - Posted on May 4, 2008 - 14:45:15   (#22781)
 Current version when comment was posted: V0.3
Hello everyone
a new month, a new trouble build ;-)

Some changes were made in the settings panel and as you can see I already planned some new features (which are disabled right now).

For those of you who have problems with seeking in a mp3-file, activate the "paranoia seek" in the settings. This feature is still VERY experimental (and slow) but it seems to seeks correctly for all files.

A new feature is the message window which shows what happens inside Jukebox when you play a song or a music video.

I also added a file info window. Not complete, but already useful.

Happy testing ;-)

Nice work :)
 By ModeenF - Posted on March 29, 2008 - 11:36:23   (#22652)
 Current version when comment was posted: V0.3
Now I only need a way to handle movie files the same way as mp3's (default directory and such)and perhaps show images (that exist in the same directory as the movie) to click on ;)

Thanks
 By Michael.Henry - Posted on March 28, 2008 - 21:36:57   (#22646)
 Current version when comment was posted: V0.3
I like what you have done. Thank you.

trouble build 20080328
 By J.M.Reis - Posted on March 28, 2008 - 16:02:36   (#22645)
 Current version when comment was posted: V0.3
Hello everyone
the latest build of Jukebox is now available for download.
I added overlay support and fullscreen video playback to this build (music videos run perfectly on my old Vaio with 330MHz and Zeta 1.21).
Happy testing ;-)

working on the next trouble build...
 By J.M.Reis - Posted on March 13, 2008 - 17:19:07   (#22570)
 Current version when comment was posted: V0.3
Hey everyone,
since it's raining allmost all day here I spend some extra time working on the next trouble build of Jukebox.
I made some really nice improvements within the video playback code and I think I will upload another build at the end of this month. To give you an impression about this improvements, I added 3 new screenshots (of course with my favorite artist).

mmmmmmmore to come...

actual builds for download
 By J.M.Reis - Posted on February 27, 2008 - 14:25:38   (#22518)
 Current version when comment was posted: V0.3
Hello everyone,
you can now download and test the actual builds of Jukebox if you want. So you don't have to wait several month for the next release ;-)
I called these builds trouble builds, because they are untested and therefore not safe to work.
You should always use these builds with the build in base skin, because some features need additional settings in the cfg-file of a skin.

OK...and now have fun!

re: default vs. skin
 By J.M.Reis - Posted on February 3, 2008 - 06:20:47   (#22462)
 Current version when comment was posted: V0.3
In the very very very first version of Jukebox (never released) I uses standard buttons to test the concept of Jukebox.
But since the GUI elements of the actual Jukebox have very complex functionalities (like a button with 3 states, the progressbar or the lists) I had to write really everything by my own.
Even the lists aren't BLists like in other BeOS applications, because they don't provide me all the functionalities I need. They are very complex BViews (a BView in a BScrollView in a BView again, just to be exact).

Therefore there's no standard BeOS GUI under the skin. Or in other words, Jukebox is just a mediaplayer, a kind of file manager and many many BViews ;-)


default vs. skin
 By -Meanwhile- - Posted on February 3, 2008 - 05:40:32   (#22461)
 Current version when comment was posted: V0.3
In fact, isn't the default BeOS look what you automatically start with, i.e. something that just uses the OS's GUI standard already there (and which may later be changed into a skin)?
:S
And then talking about a 'default BeOS look skin' makes no sense...or does it?


re: BFS attributes and skins
 By J.M.Reis - Posted on February 3, 2008 - 04:44:55   (#22460)
 Current version when comment was posted: V0.3
@koki: I played around with that idea about a year ago, but there's one big problem. Many people (like me on my desktop PC) store their music on a FAT-partition to have access from BeOS, Linux and Windows. Some also use an external USB harddrive (also FAT-partitions).
Therefore it's not such a good idea to make JUST use of attributes and mimetypes.
But as I already mentioned, I plan to create a kind of import or CD-rip function where you can enter the ID tags. I guess it would be good place to add support for attributes here. But I have to think about this for a while, to find out what will be implemented (and how).

@Meanwhile: Feel free to create such a skin for us ;-)
You can download the example skin, then add your image files and modify the settings.cfg file.
I'm still waiting for the skins of beosfrance...just by the way :-)

skin
 By -Meanwhile- - Posted on February 3, 2008 - 02:22:41   (#22459)
 Current version when comment was posted: V0.3
Maybe you want to add a 'default BeOS look' skin?

BFS attributes
 By Kokito - Posted on February 2, 2008 - 17:48:12   (#22458)
 Current version when comment was posted: V0.3
> bfs-attributes: on my list...will see what I can do

Perhaps you may consider creating a Tracker add-on?

I suppose that if you created such an add-on, the app itself would not have to deal with MP3 tags and could rely instead on the BFS attributes, which are native to Haiku.

This would also benefit users from a file management POV, as it would enable BFS queries for all the MP3 files.

some answers
 By J.M.Reis - Posted on February 2, 2008 - 13:10:15   (#22456)
 Current version when comment was posted: V0.3
Hi and thanks for your feedback!
Here are some answers to your questions/requests:

random: random playing is already implemented in V0.3 (even if it's still very experimental). Just select random as the playmode by clicking the button right to the stop-button. This button toggles between normal (one arrow down), loop (a round arrow) and random play mode(two twisted arrows).

id-tags: yes the id-tagger still needs a lot of work, thats true. It's on my list since V0.1 or V0.2.

playlists: jukebox adds every title within the m3u-list and checks if the file can be found. So if the m3u-list contains some strange characters or the filename is slightly different to this, the file won't be found (and added). So if your playlist describes the file song1.mp3 while the real filename is Song1.mp3, the file won't be found.
But I'll have a look at this and see if I can modify the mechanism a bit.

colums in the playlist: Thats a good point and already on my list. I guess (hope) the playlist will make some huge improvements until V0.4 or V0.5.

bfs-attributes: on my list...will see what I can do

I just spend some hours in improving drawing mechanism. The timetip of the progressbar is now displayed as a window and not as a view (really tricky, but it works). So no more flickering and some new features will follow in V0.4 ;-)

Playlist
 By salva - Posted on February 2, 2008 - 09:58:12   (#22454)
 Current version when comment was posted: V0.3
Also, it could be great to select the columns on the Playlist and play the songs in random order.

ID3 Tag and M3U...
 By salva - Posted on February 2, 2008 - 09:56:55   (#22453)
 Current version when comment was posted: V0.3
Well, now I have organized all my MP3 music, and Jukebox 0.3 doesn't recognize most of the ID3 tags (all of them ID3 TAG v1 for better compatibility) and too much m3u list are incompletely displayed (for example, it the album has 9 songs, it only displays 3 or 4). But well, I still like very much this app and hope it will be the only MP3 player I will use in the near future. (I still use the outstanding CL-AMP)

MP3 tags > BFS attributes
 By Kokito - Posted on January 26, 2008 - 12:49:02   (#22437)
 Current version when comment was posted: V0.3
Can you add synchronization of MP3 tags to BFS attributes, so that when you add MP3 files that don't have BFS attributes (say, from a FAT/NTFS/ext3 volume), the attributes are added to the files automagically?


Your wishes please!
 By J.M.Reis - Posted on January 25, 2008 - 12:32:48   (#22436)
 Current version when comment was posted: V0.3
Hey everyone,
after a little break I guess it's time to start with V0.4 in february or so.
So now YOU have the chance to post your wishes for the next version of Jukebox again!

My ideas/wishes for V0.4 are:
- rework of window movement/resizing code (the code is a real mess righ now...and works really bad on haiku)
- improvement of the player (video and streams)
- user can set the thread priority of jukebox (so the gui works better under high system load)
- maybe a little info window, that shows details of an album or artist (albums, tracks, picture of the album cover or artist, etc...)
- a search function (still have no idea how, but it's on my list)
- an import function for the playlist, so you can drop files on the playlist, enter/change the ID tags and then import these files into your mp3-directory.
- what about a cd rip function (would make use of the lame encoder)? Files are (of course) automatically imported into your mp3 directory.
- thought about some visualisation, but don't really know how
- maybe support for BeCC (an application to control external Crystalfontz displays)

Sooo...now it's on you to add stuff to this list ;-)

Simply love it !
 By beosfrance - Posted on January 3, 2008 - 06:42:00   (#22350)
 Current version when comment was posted: V0.3
I bought Zenebona for Zeta when it comes out, but i must say that i really love this JukeBox v0.3 !!!

I must now port my v0.2 skins for this v0.3 now :) (Zeta and Winamp5 one)

re: changed skin download links
 By atapahs - Posted on December 31, 2007 - 18:18:15   (#22340)
 Current version when comment was posted: V0.3
links fixed. thx great app.

changed skin download links
 By J.M.Reis - Posted on December 31, 2007 - 17:08:33   (#22339)
 Current version when comment was posted: V0.3
Hmmm...seems that your browser wasn't able to handle urls with whitespace in it. Changed the filenames and links a little bit and hope this works.

skins download RE:RE:
 By atapahs - Posted on December 31, 2007 - 15:51:32   (#22338)
 Current version when comment was posted: V0.3
Skins download example link only work others are nil. thx

re: Skins download
 By J.M.Reis - Posted on December 31, 2007 - 08:56:16   (#22335)
 Current version when comment was posted: V0.3
Like I said, the older skins do not work in V0.3.
I added some V0.3 skins under "Related Links: ". Just download them to your desktop and drag 'n drop them on the Jukebox window.
If the download doesn't work, do a right click on the download link and select "Save target as..." or "Save link as..." (depending on your browser).
If it still doesn't work, please let me know.

Skins download
 By atapahs - Posted on December 31, 2007 - 07:53:55   (#22333)
 Current version when comment was posted: V0.3
cannot download skins from link, Tried using skins from earlier version but just endup
with no background and no change in the buttons. Is there another link not listed for the skins? Thanks

how to install skins
 By J.M.Reis - Posted on December 31, 2007 - 05:34:20   (#22332)
 Current version when comment was posted: V0.3
The skins changed a little bit from V0.2 to V0.3 (scalable background image and some buttons). This means you have to use V0.3 skins.

In total there are different 3 ways to install a skin:
1. unzip the skin to /boot/home/config/settings/Jukebox/skins
2. choose "install skin(s)..." from the rightclick menu of the skinlist and select the .zip file of the skin
3. just drag 'n drop the .zip file on the jukebox window. The skin will be installed and jukebox switches to the skinlist.

I prefer number 3, because it's really just one mouseclick to install a skin.

re skins
 By Bardulas - Posted on December 30, 2007 - 23:20:05   (#22331)
 Current version when comment was posted: V0.3
/boot/home/config/settings/Jukebox/skins

skins
 By atapahs - Posted on December 30, 2007 - 19:59:57   (#22329)
 Current version when comment was posted: V0.3
Skins no longer work, or is there a different way to install the skins

some answers
 By J.M.Reis - Posted on December 27, 2007 - 15:19:05   (#22325)
 Current version when comment was posted: V0.3
@BeOS Mr X:
Ah ok...you mean codecs. The player inside Jukebox is very simple and makes use of the system codecs installed in BeOS/Zeta/Haiku. So if there is a codec, that can play .xm or .mod files, intalled on your machine Jukebox will play that stuff (at least it should...).
But I have no idea if something like this exists for BeOS!?!?

@cvincent:
Thanks...developers really like to hear that kind of feedback..*g*
Jukebox uses .m3u playlists (which should be the standard for CL-Amp; don't really know what soundplay uses) as standard playlists.
So...if you drag 'n drop a .m3u playlist on jukebox, the files are added to the playlist (if the files described in the playlist are found and the playlist didn't reach its limit of 1000 files) and jukebox should switch to the playlist.
I tried this right now and it works with all my .m3u-playlists automatically created by my favorite CD ripper (CDeX).

Great !!!!
 By cvincent - Posted on December 27, 2007 - 14:32:54   (#22324)
 Current version when comment was posted: V0.3
Hi,

You have include my request about sub-sub folder !
And it's very user-friendly.
Thx this software is very very GREAT !!!!

Regards,
PS : an idea, include option to use playlist from soundplay,cl-amp etc... just by drag-and-drop playlist file in playlist window of jukebox !

modules like`
 By BeOS Mr X - Posted on December 26, 2007 - 19:35:14   (#22318)
 Current version when comment was posted: V0.3
computer music, made on a music 'tracker' and uses chip-emulation to playback the files. Try playing some recent ones from here
http://keygenmusic.net/?page=pack/packlist&lang=en

Lately I have been converting my chiptunes to mp3 and playing them, as it works the best this way, but it takes a long time to go from .wav and then .mp3 ! We need a player that plays chiptunes on beos perfectly, like we have mp3 players.

re: any possibility of module compatibility ?
 By J.M.Reis - Posted on December 26, 2007 - 15:18:24   (#22315)
 Current version when comment was posted: V0.3
What exactly do you mean with modules? For me a module is a part of something.
So...do you mean different windows (player, EQ, playlist, etc...) like in CL-Amp, or Plug-Ins (like visualization) or additional codecs to play unsupported audio/video files???

Tell me more! I am actually collecting ideas to create my development focus for V0.4 (after a little break of some weeks)

any possibility of module compatibility ?
 By BeOS Mr X - Posted on December 26, 2007 - 14:11:52   (#22314)
 Current version when comment was posted: V0.3
I'm looking for something like XM-Play for BeOS that does not suck. APlayer is great but as soon as you start multitasking while listening to music every time the cpu goes 100% the sound playback in a-player goes sporadic unless the priority is changed to real-time. And CL-Amp playback of mudules is not entirely accurate and sounds wrose, not better than APlayer. Jukebox does really look good, but I'm still sticking with CL-Amp until I find a new app that works as good or better - and with modules.

re: drag window
 By J.M.Reis - Posted on December 26, 2007 - 04:25:38   (#22312)
 Current version when comment was posted: V0.3
This feature isn't implemented right now (I tried, but it is really tricky).
To move jukebox to another workspace, press "t" to enable the window tab. Now click the tab and hold the mouse button while you press F1, F2, ...
This uses the build in workspace-changing-methods of BeOS/Zeta/Haiku and not the Jukebox methods.

P.S.: There are many other things, which actually don't work like they should:
- the whole video functionality (seeking, stability)
- moving the window under Haiku
- drawing of the progressbar under Haiku
- the mp3 tagger doesn't recognize all id tags correctly
- the drawing code of the scalable background image is very ugly (I am really wondering why it works this good)
- etc...

That's why Jukebox is still V0.3 and not V1.0 ;)

drag window
 By Bardulas - Posted on December 26, 2007 - 04:11:01   (#22311)
 Current version when comment was posted: V0.3
Drag Jukebox window with keyboard(F1...)and mouse hand to other workspaces not work. Version for R5.

Outstanding
 By salva - Posted on December 24, 2007 - 08:46:29   (#22308)
 Current version when comment was posted: V0.3
The best new media app for our BeOS/ZETA (I use ZETA 1.5)/Haiku systems. My favorite music player for sure.

Thanks!

shame
 By the_hUm - Posted on December 20, 2007 - 15:17:01   (#22292)
 Current version when comment was posted: V0.2
Shame on me for beeing too fast. :-)

cool!
 By the_hUm - Posted on December 20, 2007 - 15:16:01   (#22291)
 Current version when comment was posted: V0.2
Sounds pretty cool. Got a screenshot ? Or are you close to a release ?

V0.3 allmost finished
 By J.M.Reis - Posted on December 20, 2007 - 12:51:22   (#22290)
 Current version when comment was posted: V0.2
Hey everyone,
I'm sorry that such a long time passed by since my last activities in the BeOS scene. I was in Belgium for about one month and have a new job which takes most of my time.
This means I can't spend that much time in developing Jukebox as I would like to. So I decided to move the release of V0.3 to the end of december (would be a nice x-mas gift...or?)

The video functionality is still very experimental, but it works well enough to watch some short music videos. Therefore I will enable this feature in V0.3 allready.
Another great feature in V0.3 will be a RESIZABLE Jukebox window. This means I rewrote allmost the whole application, implemented a parser for mathematical formulas (so the items can be placed depending on the window width/height) and redesigned the skins.
To make life a bit easier for creating new skins, the skin configuration files got simplified a little bit. I renamed some variables and colors are now defined in one single line (and not one line for every RGB value).

Right now I am busy with the final tests on V0.3 and I think an x-mas release should be possible ;-)
So...stay tuned and have a look at the new screenshots gallery to get an impression of V0.3

Some news!
 By J.M.Reis - Posted on September 10, 2007 - 17:25:10   (#21948)
 Current version when comment was posted: V0.2
Many things happened during the last couple of weeks, so I guess it's time to post some news about me and this project.

about the features in V0.3:
I implemented and tested most of the features I wanted to put into V0.3. Well, actually all the features except of playing mp3-streams. It's really much more work, than I expected...

some plans/ideas for future versions:
There allready is a working Interface for the last.fm online-radio (works really nice, but it still needs CL-Amp to play the stream).
Last week I played the first mpeg video with Jukebox. Yessss, a video! It's not really syncronized with the audio track and sucks a lot cpu power, but I guess it's a good start for a nice feature in V0.4 or 0.5.

V0.2 skins:
I've just uploaded an orange/red version of the base skin. It's called sunset.zip and you can find it in the related links section. To install this skin, just drag n drop the zip-file to the skin panel - that's it.
If someone of you made a nice skin for Jukebox please post the url here or send me an e-mail, so I will put the skin on my webserver and add a download link.

terres rouges:
Last week I went to the "Terres Rouges" festival in Luxembourg (just about 50 miles away from here) and saw some really nice bands there. But one artist impressed me like noone else: Pink!
I've allready seen douzends of live-concerts but I have to say: you really have the see this lady performing live on stage!!!

bebits app of the month:
Woohooo! Last saturday I listened to the latest haiku podcast (http://haikupodcast.com/) and yeesss Jukebox is BeBits App of the Month!
Thanks for this award (just watched the MTV VMA's...hehe)!

So...these were my more or less important news ;)
Mmmmmmore to come...

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